The fish release-live or die- feeling pain stuff has been under debate as long as I can remember. Let's bring a couple of particular fish into it. The first marlin I brought to the boat was on the metric equivalent of 30lb and hung on the gantry at just under 300lb. I was happy to release it after a spectacular on surface battle. It took a stripie of about 6-7lb that was swimming under a balloon, on the twelve mile reef, south of Montagu Island. Though not really wanted (it became pretty good tucker though) my friend and boat owner said he was going to knock it on the head. My argument was ignored as Martin said, because it was bleeding deep down and would die regardless. It also had five other similar stripies inside it. Was it even hungry? I doubt it. He knew far more than me about game fishing. It's also part of my thing about live baiting that there is a positive tendency for fish to be hooked deep down, reducing their chance of survival if released. Last year I hooked a decent fish in the lake here that turned out to be a jewie. I have only caught two here as I don't fish for them. Both were taken on plastics in shallow water, middle of the day, and in bright sunlight. All apparently abnormal. The first came to the boat quite easily. At around 70, it was released and swam away appearing none the worse. The second one battled until it could go no further. At times it was around 100m away. We never sighted it until it surfaced ten metres away from the boat, then just lay there as I wound it to the net, 3/4 of a km from where it was hooked after chasing it with the electric motor. It was virtually dead when we netted it and I've been told that these fish often do that. I don't know much about them and don't question the information bit I've now seen it happen. It was 22 1/2 lb and an excellent table fish. I'd like to have released it but there was little point. Yes it was on my light gear (4lb braid and 6lb leader). I don't call that ultra light. Had I been targeting that sort of fish it could be deemed to be ultra light to some. I've had several flathead over 90 on the same gear and they ALL seemed fine when released. The only record I have of the marlin is some video we shot on the water. Thinking about it, perhaps if I paused the video, I could get a screen shot to post. Will have to try that. The jewie is shown below. Tight lines.