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CornaCarpio's Carp Culling Capers!

Discussion in 'Freshwater Fishing' started by CornaCarpio, Jan 10, 2018.

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  1. creekboy

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    Great colour that red/orange one. Cheers, creekboy.
     
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  2. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    Been in the habit of going for a fish after work these past couple of days. I hadn't been successful - until now. Only small, but great to get back on the board.

    In other news, I have lashed out an bought another Shimano ix4000 spinning reel (on afterpay). I was a little disappointed when it turned up without line, unlike last time I bought one online. My plan is to slowly phase out all the old sportfisher reels I have at my Dad's place with them. I nearly lost a cod last summer 'cause the reel jammed and the drag stopped working. Don't want to take that chance again. Also, in the past I almost exclusively used a 2000 sized spinning reel with nothing more than 6lb line. Great for redfin and probably 80% of the fish I catch, but not so good for decent sized carp. I'm a 4000 reel guy now these days...

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  3. kev209

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    I've had a Shimano out and back telescopic combo for about 30 years came with the IX2000R (plastic fantastic) reel, caught some big carp and never had a problem. The ix series still comes with a 10 year warranty as far as I know.
     
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  4. Old fisho

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    While desperately wanting to hit Eucumbene for the big trout festival during Melbourne Cup week; it won't happen.
    My mad mate went there a couple of days ago and, assuming he was bait fishing from shore; got five what Zig calls nice fat fish. Didn't say how big but he doesn't skite or exaggerate fish sizes. The lake browns have been back from their spawning run up the river for quite a while and I would normally expect them to be in good condition by now. It's still one of the few carp free waters we have and I love it like that. Yes, I've caught enough carp on both bait and fly to know they are strong scrappers but they remain in my mind as feral scum fish. Noel.
     
  5. blair

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    hi noel and all, eucenbene has been fishing well from what I have read , I am finally going to the snowy mountains trout festival can hardly wait. will be in the fly fishing comp and considering going in other types of fishing comp, would like to have a nice sit on my arse and throw out some bait and also throwing a few lures around would be fun.
    if there is anyone from tbx there come over and say goodaye I will be in a white Isuzu dnax whith aluminium toolboxes whith a 4.6 meter webster bassmaster hanging off it and a skinny dog that looks like a dingo in the back of ute or hanging off the front of the boat at speed, camping at anglers reach, hopefully seen lugging hefty fish up to the daily weigh in!
    tight lines!
     
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  6. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    Got one carp and three 'micro's' today, for a lazy Sunday afternoon of fishing. Was getting enough bites to keep me interested for a couple of hours. Good way to spend the day.

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    Above: First two of the day
    Below: Ended with four (4) all up
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  7. Rod Bender

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    What pound line are you running now on the 4000 size reels?
    Cheers
    Jim
     
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  8. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    I put 10lb line on the reel I bought the other day which is heavier than the usual 6lb I have used in the past, but not as thick as the line on the pre-spooled shimano reels...
     
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  9. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    Well, it’s that that time of the year again when the annual, and now traditional, father/son fish-off occurs at Taylors Lake on Christmas Day. I haven’t been fishing for what seems like ages due to a busy past couple of months. That, and largely inclement weather has made fishing nigh on impossible recently, even down in the urban jungle. Needless to say, I was absolutely itching to go fishing and catch a few fish, especially carp - and lots of them.

    The day started off fairly well I had yabbies and corn a paternoster rig (hedging my bets). Literally as soon as I put my rod in the rod-holder I thought I had a bite. I tightened the line slightly and the rod went again – it was a bite – and on the end of the line was a nice 40cm Yellowbelly. 'That was easy' I thought. It was a bit more quiet after that. A couple of hours later there was an inquiry on the same rod. This time a nice 30cm Yella.

    Not much action happened overnight – not even on my designated ‘corn’ rods which is nearly unheard of for Taylor’s, especially during the warmer months. I woke up at first light to catch the morning bite, but even that was uneventful. I baited all the rods with corn and/or yabbies and waited and waited…nothing. As the sun became a bit higher I took the car and scouted for another spot to fish. When I came back my Dad had a Carp to the tune of 55cm flapping on the bank! One Carp caught for the entire trip and I didn’t even catch it! Unbelievable. More amazingly, it took a Yabby and ignored the corn. I couldn’t believe it!

    I’m not sure how much fishing I’ll be doing while I’m up in the Wimmera. I went out to my usual spot out the river a couple of days ago and it was bone dry! But hopefully a carp somewhere, some time, has my name on it…otherwise I might have to resort to the lowest form of fishing possible - the Wimmera Whiting (Redfin) :(

    P.S. Interestingly, my Dad, in the way of pictures sent to friends, is claiming HE caught the Yellowbelly and I caught the Carp


    Golden Perch (Yellowbelly)

    Golden perch are a fine fighting fish and a table delicacy but sometimes they can be finicky feeders and difficult to catch. Relatively light line of 4 to 6kgs. strength with a flexible rod is essential to feel the bite. Golden perch appear to just tap the bait so allow a small amount of slack line before striking. The best Golden perch months are October and November but good fishing can be experienced right through to April. Very few perch are taken in the winter months.

    From Fishing Wimmera Waters (1989), by Gary Knight, 2nd edn, Sportfish Australia Publications, Pty. Ltd. Glenormiston Road, Noorat, Vic, 3265, p.54

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    A 55cm Carp - that I didn't catch!
     
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  10. Rod Bender

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    Nice report....and very good to see a report here after the recent uneasiness on the forum.
    This does not surprise me one bit! One system I fish where yabbies are plentiful, yabbies are my go to bait for carp. On saying that, I think worms would be more successful than yabbies, but yabbies are plentiful there...worms are not...and the yabbies work better than corn in my opinion on this waterway.
    cheers
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  11. Bluefin

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    It makes me cry to hear yabbies are pientifull and are used for Bait .... I love eating them. Blow the carp !!!!
     
  12. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    I went back today solo pax trying to catch a bazillion carp. Because the yabbies were so plentiful (and still alive) I used them too, maybe hoping for for another yellowbelly or two (or better yet, a murray cod).

    I got zip, zilch, nada.

    Going to Taylors' and not catching a carp is like going to a trout farm and not catching a bloody trout! :eek:

    Conditions were perfect too, bar a little wind.

    Your Mental Attitude

    The object of fishing primarily is to catch fish and most of our ardent anglers are people who have had their enthusiasm sparked by successfully landing a good fish. But we can never measure the benefits of fishing in terms of the fish caught. As appetising as most of our catches may be, nobody can deny the benefits of escaping from daily cares, daring the elements, sunshine and fresh air, good companionship and sound sleep!


    From Gregory’s Fishing Guide (1967), 5th edition, fully revised, printed by Kenmure Press Pty Ltd, Wetherill and Derby Sts, North Lidcombe, NSW, for Gregory’s Guides and Maps Pty Ltd, 14s Clarence St Sydney, p.4

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  13. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    Headed to a dam today where I cut my teeth as a junior. I spent a large part of my childhood here learning the craft of fishing. It is the place where I first caught multiple fish in one sitting and holds many pleasant fishing memories for me. Looking back, I guess its a place where my love of fishing began.

    For old times sake I tied on a lure (an ecogear - a little bit more expensive than the red dixons I used as a kid) and tried for the humble redfin. Eventually I was rewarded with a palm-sized redfin and had a few follow-ins from a small school of reddies which once again brought back memories. I also saw a huge yabby shell just inches from the water. I wonder what left it stranded just inches from the water.

    While redfin fishing doesn't quite excite me like it used to, I was just happy to catch something given my recent fortunes.

    Redfin
    Introduced into Victoria from England in the 1860’s, redfin (English Perch) have spread throughout all Wimmera waters. The Ballarat Acclimatisation Society provided most of the early stockings of redfin throughout the Wimmera and this fish has been the main fish species for many years. Today redfin breed abundantly in all waters and no liberations are required.

    From Fishing Wimmera Waters by Gary Knight (1989), Sportfish Australia Publications, Noorat, Vic, 3265, p.51


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  14. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    Well it’s been that long that I’ve almost forgot what’s it like to catch a Carp. The annual father/son fish-off at the Carp-infested Taylors Lake on Christmas Day produced only one Carp – and I didn’t even catch it! Yesterday I caught the train to Belgrave and rode my bike to the picturesque Belgrave Lake thinking a change in location might result in a change in fortune – but it did not. Saw a few fish swimming about, and the lake looked ‘fishy’, but I didn’t get a single bite for the whole day. Today, I actually planned to head to Caulfield Lake (via the creek) to tie on a lure and catch a stocked Rainbow Trout. The Victorian Fisheries Authority website describes Rainbow Trout as "being a good option for children or those trying fishing for the first time because they are relatively easy to catch and take a variety of baits and lures". 600 of them have been stocked in there this year. "Surely one one them has my name on it", I thought.

    I never made it to Caulfield Lake. As I was riding along the creek I saw a huge school of Carp. While not exactly devouring my bait, they were quite receptive, especially with a healthy dose of patience. I got my first one virtually straight away, and the second one probably 10 minutes after that (both measuring approximately 47/48cm). Eventually the school broke up, with me catching the two in question and several passers-by scaring them off. Feeling great to finally be back on the board, I tried a few other spots, but ultimately didn’t do any good.

    I sometimes hear reports of Carp schooling on the surface and the Carp not being interested or receptive to bait. While I can definitely relate - and have experienced this situation many times before, I find if you are patient and don’t cast directly at the school of fish (scaring them away) you are always a chance if your bait is in the area where the fish are. Just don’t expect them to bite straight away.

    Anyway, after a Carpless December (and nearly a Carpless November), it was great to start the new year off with a ‘bang’ and catch 2 Carp in relatively short succession. With a bit of time off during the first month of the year, I plan to try a few new spots I haven’t had time to get around to. Hopefully a few more Carp will follow.

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    Carp

    Baits: White paste (better mixed with cotton-wool); piece of par-boiled potato; gentiles, or a piece of dry bread.

    Care and caution must be used in all your movements. It is best the day before to ground-bait the spot to be fished.

    From the Concise Handbook of Australian Fishing (1947) by “Taggerty”, National Handbook No.19, Robertson & Mullens Limited, Melbourne, p.23


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    Above: Not sure if the pic picks it up (I put my polarised sunglasses over the camera on my phone), but there are A LOT of Carp in the spot above. I managed to snag two.

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  15. blair

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    Nice cod cornacarpio
     
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    Headed to Caulfield Lake today, but ultimately didn't do any good. I think a family fishing in the same spot before me may have done a little better as there was a relatively fresh goldfish dead in the water nearby.

    Despite the 'deep water' signs, I don't think the lake is so. I saw a dog swimming out near the middle and it seemed to be followed by a puff of mud everywhere it went.

    I plan on hitting the Coburg Lake/Merri Creek area tomorrow as my Melbourne carp adventures continue...

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  17. CornaCarpio

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    Headed to my old haunt TNA today in Boronia, more for curiosity than anything else. I wasn't really expecting it to be fishable, but secretly hoping it would be. It wasn't. The top pond is a 'water-filter' pool, and the bottom pond, while it has water in it, is quite shallow, full of weed and not really suitable for fishing. I did see a few Goldfish swimming around above the weed bed, but didn't even bother chucking a rod in.

    There was something special about TNA when it was 'on'. I'm sure there are many ornamental ponds around Melbourne with Carp in them, but TNA really seemed to 'pop'. I was always confident of catching at least something every time I went there.

    Speaking of ornamental ponds, I stopped by one on my way home. I caught 6 micro Carp. I wonder how many I would have caught at TNA in its heyday? The current set-up at TNA is probably better for the environment, as it recycles water (and the water is a lot clearer), but from a selfish point of view, isn't so good from a Carp-fishing perspective

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    Above: The top pond is now a 'water-filter' pool

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    Above: The bottom pond. Water level is low and weed-ridden.
     
  18. Rod Bender

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    Nice pics of your previous haunt! I fished there once...got one small carp from memory. But I must say I was lured there by talk of some mythical creature...a creature which was apparently unstoppable and also uncatchable. A trophy carp of gigantic proportions, yes, I speak of the 'Colonel'! Do you ever know what happened to the 'Colonel'?
    cheers
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    Doesn't fear mythical carp like city slickers do!
     
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  19. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    [QUOTE="Rod Bender,Do you ever know what happened to the 'Colonel'?[/QUOTE]

    I have heard reports that "The Colonel" is alive! 500 pounds of bottom-dwelling fury he was. Of course, a Carp of such proportions can't be tamed, nor caught, of course. Well, one fella came close. Went by the name of Homer. Seven feet tall he was, with arms like tree trunks. His eyes were like steel, cold, hard. Had a shock of hair, red like the fires of Hell..."

    Some say the 'leak' in TNA was caused by the Colonel furrowing down to find a new watercourse after several anglers were 'hot on his heels' and the Colonel felt his capture was only a matter of time. Some say he ended up in the Yarra. Some say the Ferntree Gully Quarry. Some say is still stuck in the mud under the water.

    Some say the 1 million dollar rehabilitation works for TNA in 2015 was a conspiracy by the council to capture the Colonel. The Council vehemently denies this claiming "no Carp of such proportions were ever found". Some say the Council raised 1 million for the rejuvenation works by selling the Colonel to the CSIRO for research purposes. A quadruple does of the Carp herpesvirus was found to have no effect on the Colonel whatsoever. Some insiders at the CSIRO say that this is the reason why the virus hasn't gone ahead as scheduled on a national level.

    Some say he was kidnapped by Chinese scientists and now resides in a Olympic sized swimming pool aquarium with other gigantic Carp in Qingdao, Shandong Province.

    Many anglers claim to have caught and slayed the Colonel, but not one can produce photographic evidence of the Colonel's demise.

    I don't know what to believe, but I do know that the Colonel is out there - somewhere.

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  20. CornaCarpio

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    Don't you just love it when a plan comes together? Tried a new spot day based on someone's advice on Carpbusters, and I was finally successful in a new spot, landing a 62cm carp.

    It was a bizarre day. The water here is just inches deep for the most part. When the carp get spooked you can see them 'running' across the water! It was tough going at the start, I could see the carp, I just couldn't catch them.

    On the opposite side of the spot to where I was fishing, someone left their rods unattended. One of the rods buckled over violently for a second or two before 'snapping back'. I went over to investigate (more to get closer to the action than to snavel the rods). They were indeed unattended. I set up camp pretty close to the rods, and about 20 minutes later old mate comes back with 2 bags of shopping! I tried explaining to old mate what happened (don't think he understood English too well, so I did bother bringing up the legality of leaving rods unattended either) and when he reeled in the rod that had the bite on it, there was nothing there - whatever it was snapped the line and made quick work of it.

    I moved to another spot nearby by which time another fisher-person turned up. I wasn't entirely happy where I cast my line, so I decided to reel it in to recast it. During which time, I felt a bite! It was quite a significant one to! The person that showed up was much better equiped than me and even offered their landing net, which came in very handy! The end result was a nice little 62cm carp in a new location.

    I've made a point of trying new spots this summer - Belgrave Lake, Ringwood Lake, Caulfield Racecourse - rather than catching the 'same old' fish down at the creek. I had been spectacularly unsuccessful - until now. It's always good to catch a fish on your first-go in a new spot. The chances of me returning have increased significantly.

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