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CornaCarpio's Carp Culling Capers!

Discussion in 'Freshwater Fishing' started by CornaCarpio, Jan 10, 2018.

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  1. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    Yep, I've now caught Cod, Yellowbelly, Silver Perch, Redfin (only one), and Trout using corn while chasing Carp.
     
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  2. blair

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    well done, that's the type of bycatch u want.
     
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  3. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    Headed out to Taylor's Lake today for a bit of a fish. Unlike the other day when I headed out there, I was 'on' from the get-go, getting bites straight away. My second bite rang the bells loud, and my rod buckled over with great force. The commotion made a boat, who was out in the 'middle' of the arm of the lake, turn their motor on on head for my 'swim'. As they approached the bank they yelled excitedly 'What ya catch? What ya catch?'. I showed them my Carp - all of about 30cm, with the hook still in its mouth. They couldn't believe how small it was. "We heard the bells and saw your rod and thought you had a Cod on". After a brief conversation, where I told them I only brought a can of corn and was targeting Carp, they kind of looked at me weird and motored off...

    Another interesting thing that happened when I was reeling in a Carp and my second rod 'went'. 'F*ck' I was thinking to myself, as I tried to get my current fish on as quickly as possible. I almost got it to the bank before the hook pulled. I did, however, manage to land the second fish, on my second rod. Shortly after, a person came over to see what I was catching as my bells were ringing with regular monotony. Again, he seemed slightly disappointed it was only Carp, but seemed quite accepting of my peculiar ways.

    Catch of the day was a 57cm Mirror Carp. I was using a paternoster rig on one rod, and running sinker on the other. I got most of the fish on the paternoster, and a little bit unusually, on the 'top' hook!

    While not a massive haul, it was pleasing to catch a fairly decent bag. I got 11 and probably lost just as many - because of poor angling and good old fashioned bad luck! Sharp hooks definitely make a difference! I find they have to be replaced after getting 'snagged'. I think I missed a few 'thumpers', but with Carp it is a little hard to tell until you see them, as even the little ones can put up a very decent fight!

    +11

    Anglers or Danglers?

    An ‘angler’ is defined as one who practices the art of fishing for sport or recreation by either the skillful use of rod, reel and baited hook or lure. The root of the word ‘angle’ comes from the ancient Sanskrit word anka, meaning bend, or hook, and even today in many parts of the world hooks are still called angels.

    From Encyclopedia of Australian Fishing (1979), Bay Books Pty. Ltd.,157-167 Bayswater Rd, Rushcutters Bay, NSW vol 1, p.7


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    Catch of the day - 57cm Mirror Carp

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    11 all up - but it could have been 11 more!
     
  4. blair

    blair Well-Known Member

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    interesting re the paternoster rig, might try it sometime while freshwater fishing. I usually sharpen all my hooks whith a small oilstone stoning towards point, catch heaps more fish since started doing that. when spinning for trout I landed 1 out of 5 hook-ups after learning sharpening hooks usually 5 out of 5 were landed.

    cheers
     
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  5. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    I'm back in the urban jungle, so I hopped on my bike and gave the creek a go. Great day, 30-odd degrees, the Carp were out, but unwilling to co-operate. I tried my usual haunts, had a tentative nibble or two, but the Carp didn't seem particularly interested in my offerings. I thought I was due for a change in scenery, so decided to access a 'new' spot. I ride past this spot all the time, but the steep banks makes access difficult. Today I was up for a bit of an adventure, so I traversed the steep banks. I got a bite fairly early on, which encouraged me to stay a bit longer. Eventually my float went under and I managed to land a nice little 55cm Carp. It's always good when a new spot pays off! Think I might be giving this hole a bit more of a crack in the next week or two!

    +1

    In reality the majority of people who go fishing are ‘danglers’ rather than anglers, their methods only superficially resembling the skills required of the true angler. The dangler is often content to sit for hours with his line in the water, his tackle and bait and rig totally inappropriate for the spot being fished. Naturally, he does not catch many fish, but this does not spoil his pleasure. He attributes his failure to catch fish to their absence rather than his own ignorance of basic angling principles.

    Encyclopedia of Australian Fishing (1979), Bay Books Pty. Ltd.,157-167 Bayswater Rd, Rushcutters Bay, NSW vol 1, p.7

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    New spot - note the steep banks
     
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  6. blair

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    Fishy looking spot corna. Plenty of rod holders (bushes).
     
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  7. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    Yep, although that didn't stop my first bite (which I missed) nearly taking my rod into the water...

    I guess I've been lucky in that I've never lost a rod before, despite sometimes leaving it in a precarious position...
     
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  8. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    Headed down to the creek last weekend (both days) when it was quite hot. Tried some VERY fishy looking spots that I haven't tried before, but ultimately didn't do any good. I blame my lack of success on the 'black water' down at the creek which always makes fishing difficult. I had one bite for the whole weekend and I missed it!

    Didn't head out again until today, where I hit up a local pond which isn't affected by weather conditions (such as rain) as much the creek. As is usually the case in this particular spot, the micro carp were on the chew, often coming on the bite in 'waves'. Oftentimes, both rods (float on one and split shot on the other) would go at once. They were only small, but all were tenacious fighters, many of them leaping in the air and trying to spit the hook. Their lack of size didn't stop me at all from enjoying the sport they provide. Excellent way to kill a few hours after work.

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    The most serious delusion of the dangler is the assumption that fish are anxious to commit suicide on his hook. If this were true, bait would not be necessary. The purpose of bait is to attract fish to the hook by offering a tasty morsel. It follows that the more attractive the bait the greater the chances of hooking a fish.

    Encyclopedia of Australian Fishing (1979), Bay Books Pty. Ltd.,157-167 Bayswater Rd, Rushcutters Bay, NSW vol 1

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  9. kev209

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    If you keep this up they won't have to release the virus
     
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  10. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    Wishful thinking I'm afraid Kev, there are literally millions of them in most waterways around the country...
     
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  11. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    Headed back to the pond today. Unfortunately, by bread was really old and mouldy and I had trouble keeping it on the hook, even after 'doughing' it up. The first one I got I saw a puff of mud near the bank, dropped the bait right into its gob, the bread was hardly in the water. The rest were all tiddlers (including a tiny mirror). Spent more time feeding the fish than what I did catching them, which was a bit frustrating, but it was still good to get out though.

    +5

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  12. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    Boy oh boy, Wowee...

    Had a 'day out' down at the creek today, landing two models in excess of 70cm! A 74cm toxic Mirror Carp and a 79.9cm Common (probably a personal best). The Mirror straightened the hook and the 79cm Common snapped the line, but I managed to land both due to a combination of desperation and plain old fashioned good luck!

    The Mirror (almost) straightened the hook which 'popped out' as I had nearly had it beached. I literally dived into the (muddy) creek bank to wrestle it to shore. It came from a 'new spot' which I was pretty pleased with.

    After I landed it it went a bit quiet and I tried one of my more regular haunts. It was pretty quiet there as well, but just before I was about to leave and approaching dusk, my rod twitched ever so slightly. It was so heavy, I literally couldn't do anything, as I knew with my light set-up it could break my line in an instant, or the hook to pop out if I exerted too much pressure. Surprisingly, the 79cm didn't fight that hard, as in it didn't go for any big runs or anything, but it stayed low and kept swimming around in circles (I was straight above it and it kept trying to dive into an undercut bank). After what seemed like an eternity (probably 10 minutes) it started to tire and come to the surface. It was huge. After several failed attempts to net it with my minuscule butterfly net, I decided to grab the line with my hand and direct it into my net (something I'm not fond of doing), as I was doing that, my leader snapped, but luckily the fish was still on the surface and had enough momentum to propel it head first into my net. I was so lucky.

    During all the commotion, I 'lost' my phone in the long grass and spent a good 10 minutes looking for it. The only reason I mention this is because I'm sure the Carp shrunk a good 5cms during that time! When I eventually did find my phone, I took a heap of photos, but a lot of them turned out a bit blurry, because I couldn't keep my hands still I was shaking that much. I couldn't believe it.

    Both fish 'got off' but I still landed them. Luckiest day ever! The fishing gods were looking down on me. I could easily be writing this now telling everyone how I had two massive bust-offs. But here I am with two 70cm+ models in the bag! Sometimes you just have to thank your lucky stars...

    Boo-yah! I'ms till pumped...

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    74 cm Mirror
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    The hook almost straightened, and did, in fact 'pop-out'

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    Just shy of 80cm!

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    Bloody good effort CC
     
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    Well done CC, they are a couple of whoppers. How big do they grow?

    Jeff
     
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    Someone can’t sleep... for
     
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  16. Madfisher

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    Congratulations CC, ON THE NEW PB,well done. Gets the old heart pumping.
    Cheers Pete
     
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  17. Madfisher

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    Jeff supposely about a metre. A lot seems to depend on the quantity of carp in the system, and how food rich it is. My PB(caught on fly) is 86cm, and recently a mate landed a 90cm carp from a basalt stream that is very food rich, but also has COD in it, so they get culled a bit.
    cheers Pete.
     
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  18. Rod Bender

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    Brilliant!!! I am not even sure of what size my PB carp is, perhaps low 70s I think.
    Cheers
    Team Bender
    Slowly developing an inferiority complex.
     
  19. Madfisher

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    I have noticed over the years to get really large carp, you need to get into more isolated spots that have not been hammered. Carp are very smart(sadly) and in pressured areas wise up quickly to heavy foot steps, rtc but if you can find a population that has not been fished heavily then you have a good chance of getting a plus 80cm model.
    Last year we found a basalt stream that the carp where untouched, the locals either targetted trout in the head waters, or cod further down.. So even the very large carp where quite stupid, for a while. My young bloke got two 16.75lb fish in one day and i got a 17.75lb fish basically out of the one hole.
    Luckily we are blessed with streams that are generally clear and the carp can be sight fished.
     
  20. CornaCarpio

    CornaCarpio Well-Known Member

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    That is THE question Jeff, over a metre, surely?

    In the past I had trouble cracking the 70cm barrier, now 80cm seems to be my new hoodoo.

    I reckon I've spotted a few over the years that would push 1m.
     
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