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I NEVER NEEDED HELP LIKE NOW!!

Discussion in 'Chewing the fat' started by Old fisho, Sep 8, 2019.

  1. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    This day is an absolute disaster, like I can't remember.
    After spending time with my computer guru about a back up problem, he suggested the most likely solution would be to move one folder to an external drive to save some space.
    I did, then checked the external drive to ascertain everything was in order. It was, so I deleted the folder from the PC.
    Went to do something else with images this morning and the external drive is empty.
    I have lost every photo from our years on the road. Thousands of them. Six long trips all over Australia and eleven shorter ones up and down the east coast, to SA and a six month drive to Darwin, covering about nine years.
    I have a card recovery program but it only works with camera cards. Doesn't work with a drive.
    Is such a program available for an external drive? Does anyone think there may be chance of recovering them. I am shattered.
    Noel.
     
  2. Madfisher

    Madfisher Well-Known Member

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    O dear sorry to hear that Noel. You may need help from and expert, that may know how to recover theses photos.
    i think you have my sons contact details, he may have some ideas on how to recover.
    best wishes Pete
     
  3. kev209

    kev209 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to hear that Noel, There are recovery tools you can download for free. This is a silly question have you checked the recycle bin.
     
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  4. Dickson

    Dickson Active Member

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    Maybe get a computer nerd to have a look mate you don't want to do more damage. I hope you get it sorted!
     
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  5. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    Thanks guys. I have since found there are ext drive recovery programs but have decided to do nothing until the guru arrives tomorrow. Yes, I certainly looked in the bin in case I had accidentally deleted them but the file is too big for the bin. The camera is 18mpics so there's lots of data to store and the only option from the PC then is called 'remove them permanently' from the computer. Whether the program is free or pay doesn't bother me Kev. If the best one needs to be paid for; I'd gladly pay whatever it cost. The guru here thinks he 'may' get them back but won't make guarantees yet. It cost an awful lot to be in all those places originally. We've now stayed in over 400 places plus free camping now and then. I wouldn't live through trying to repeat it all. In fact it's not possible. Until tomorrow all I shall do is wait. But it certainly wrecked my day.
    Noel
     
  6. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    Noel, sorry to learn of your problem, but all is not lost. A company named Piriform specialise in software designed for mainly computer optimization, but they have a programme called Recuva which is for recovering lost files and images. They are an excellent mob to deal with and reasonably priced considering what you have lost. There is a free version here:

    https://piriformdownloads.com/recuva-free-piriform-download-2019/

    Jeff
     
  7. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    Jeff. Thanks for that but am not going to touch anything, on the advice from the local guru, who is coming here this afternoon. I have the 'card recovery' program but it only works with camera cards. The cost doesn't interest me. Many thousands couldn't replace what I want. Ted charges us bugger all when he comes and he's been looking after our PCs for nine years now. It's really embarrassing. Last visit was over an hour and it cost us $20 after him suggesting $10. Usually wants to have a yarn about the fishing. He's a kayaker.
    Noel
    Still hoping
     
  8. kev209

    kev209 Well-Known Member

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    Good luck for this afternoon, they may be hidden in another file
     
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  9. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    Woopee Do.
    Ted arrived and about 30 mins later he had all my 'lost' images on the screen. He had opened pages I couldn't even dream of understanding, delved into the heart and soul of the PC and said 'I thought they'd still be in there somewhere but there's no way you'd ever access them'. The lost are saved as they say and we have no idea how they went out of the external hard drive. I had it connected to the PC once only and that was to find it empty. As usual he charged me $20. The job was worth lots more than that to us and I gave him an Ugly Stick rod we picked up a couple of trips ago. It was a 2-4kg stick which is OK for casting plastics and according to Dr Google, retailed at around $90. I would never use it and certainly don't need it. Ted says he will definitely use it and is quite pleased.
    Thanks to all the guys who showed some concern and the news is now all good. Copying them back is almost completed.
    Noel.
     
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  10. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    That's good news, Noel.

    A mate of mine who has spent the past 30 odd years working in I.T. once told me that files never get lost in a computer, they just end up in a different place. I guess that's all well and good if you know where to look for them, but to most of us, we haven't got a clue.

    Jeff
     
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  11. Rod Bender

    Rod Bender Well-Known Member

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    Great news Noel! Have you done something to ensure this does not happen again...perhaps backing all your pics up to memory sticks or a similar external device?
    Cheers
    Team Bender
    Knows FA about file recovery so backs everything up!
     
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  12. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    Jeff, none of us, excluding the professionals, would have any hope of even attempting what Ted was doing. He went through pages (if that's what they call them) at a rate I could never follow. One after the other, all filled with detailed info and he seemed to pick a line immediately as if he really knew where he was going. I couldn't find my way through it with a map. But I guess; put simply, that's their job.
    Jim, I always back up and that's exactly what was being done. That particular file was so big we agreed to remove it from the PC and create a second dedicated backup.
    Ted says while he thought he could find them, he couldn't tell what caused it. Mostly likely a minor tech hiccup in either the PC or the external drive. He then went to a page and said yes, there it is, a minor fault occurred at 0638 yesterday morning. That would be be the the exact time I plugged in the drive. He cannot define what did the damage.
    I'm sure he's no better than most other PC techs but he's certainly good enough for me.
    I'm sure now it's right that everything you do in a computer can be found by the right people.
    Noel
    Happy chappie once more
    And the cat has returned; mouse is on best behaviour.
     
  13. Madfisher

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    Great news Noel, it would be heart breaking to lose all those photos.
    cheers Pete
     
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  14. kev209

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    Terrific news Noel, I'm glad you got them all back
     
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  15. ratherbefishin

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    Noel, as a guy who works with computers and has enough knowledge to be dangerous with computer forensics, you also deserve a pat on the back for how you handled the situation. Knowing how important your shots were and waiting for someone who knows their stuff to look at the machine, you maximised the opportunity for recovery of your pics.

    The problem with using random tools from the Internet is that you can end up doing more harm than good, as you're messing with that part of the file system you want to recover the data from without actually knowing what's happening or what the tool is actually doing. If the data isn't vital, it can be worth a shot. But if it's something you don't want to loose, you're better to get someone who knows their stuff to take a look.

    So well done on demonstrating both good judgement and patience.
     
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  16. kev209

    kev209 Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to TBX rbf, Very wise words
     
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    Very pleased for you Noel I could imagine why you and your wife would be devastated with all those memories.
    Sleep well tonight.
    Wally
     
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  18. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    A huge thank you for the interest guys. Just knowing someone else might have cared a bit was valued.
    As for rbf and I'm sure that's what he'll become known as; welcome to our happy little site. If as others tell us, you have been in other forums, this is different. Most speak of criticisms, abuse and bad language in other sites. It doesn't happen here. Most of us have been around a while; a few, due to medical issues, can't get out very often. Others with different medical issues are crazy fishos. There were times when this site could have closed down. Now we have a steady line of newbies joining in and becoming valued members. Hopefully, we can include you among us. I'm down on the NSW south coast (Tuross Head) where I mostly chase flatties with soft plastics but this year have caught lots of lovely whiting in our river. Love it. Where do you hang your hat and what sort of fishing turns you on?
    Noel
    Trainee membership booster
     
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  19. diesel

    diesel Well-Known Member

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    Goodonya RBF, welcome to the forum. We need members such as yourself who have a better understanding of the inner workings of computers than most of us possess.

    Stick around and maybe you can offer some advice on our ongoing image posting glitch.

    Jeff
     
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  20. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    PS. I didn't have the courage to tell Boss until all was returned. Once more acting on Ted's advice
     
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