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Side cast twist

Discussion in 'Fishing General Chat' started by kev209, Sep 22, 2019.

  1. kev209

    kev209 Well-Known Member

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    Alvey reels have been disgust a few times lately. I can't remember if I have posted these pictures before. This sinker was designed to help stop line twist when using side cast reels.
    A work mate of my uncle a very keen angler designed and made these sinkers about 65 years ago. I don't know if they ever made there way to shops etc.

    If you look at the bottom of the sinker [the one in the pliers] there is a groove for a match [sinker stopper] that was used by fisho's for many years. I went fishing with dad and my uncle quite a few times [some great memories] When my uncle fished off the beach he used this bloody big long Rangoon cane rod he made. After retrieving his line to about the length of his rod he would lift it high into the air and let the sinker do it's stuff I can remember watching it spin.

    After all these years I believe this maybe the only one left, I found it in dad's old fishing box.

    I played around with them a couple of times as a kid but I still got line twist.


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  2. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry Well-Known Member

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    The best way to stop line twist from a side cast is to use an egg beater ;)
     
  3. kev209

    kev209 Well-Known Member

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    I agree
     
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  4. Master Baiter

    Master Baiter Well-Known Member

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    Hey Kev, I was the sporting goods manager in the Campberfield K M art when it opened in about 1975. I can recall a star sinker similar to yours not exactly the same but used for supposedly twisting in to the sand for anchorage .
    I love my Alvey 45 A1 line twist not a problem but what is a problem hooking a Cod and as soon as it heads to you you have to wind as fast as you can. When it turns and takes up the slack you are way behind in the winding dept.
    Wally
     
  5. kev209

    kev209 Well-Known Member

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    That was a Kmart store, they even sold boats and motors some stores even sold guns. I'm still using a Daiwa 1000 and a 1500 I purchased there not long after they opened. Kmart Campbellfield and Frank Oreillys were my second homes.
     
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  6. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry Well-Known Member

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    I had many mugs of tea out the back with Mark and junior in Frank Oreillys mark with his coke of course....... it is a great piece of history that is sadly now gone
     
  7. Old fisho

    Old fisho Well-Known Member

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    Goodness, I haven't heard of Frank O'Rielly's place for years. I used to buy all my reloading gear from AMDP (Australian Monte de Piete) Forgotten the spelling but wrote a fair few cheques there. He used to sell shot by the ton and that was the way I bought it.
    Side cast reels; I have an old original cedar one but wouldn't use it in a fit.
    Tac has got it right but on the beach I use only overhead drum reels.
    I also used to use home made Indian/Rangoon cane sticks.
    There seemed to be a slight difference in the nodes on the canes.
    Noel
     
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  8. creekboy

    creekboy Well-Known Member

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    No longer the GOOD OLD DAYS any more. Cheers, Lyall.
     
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  9. blair

    blair Well-Known Member

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    I remember seeing 2 swivels used on sidecast rigs to prevent line twist. Interesting sinker kev. I used to buy .22 ammo from kmart and make a few bucks if I got a fox. Whilst talking about .22,s thought I would quickly brag about my win the other day, Kariong 300 whith a .22 PPC, goes about 3 times the speed of a .22 rimfire.:D Kariong 300 FIRST place.JPG
     
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  10. kev209

    kev209 Well-Known Member

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    I did a lot of small bore shooting when I was younger, and became an average shot. I can't remember but I think they moved the mound from 25 yards to 20 yards or something like that. The best score I ever achieved was a 96 with 3 centrals. Then they changed the gauging method from inner to outer gauging. In other words if the the shot was close to the ring and a gauge was used it would go to the lower score. I used a club rifle so you had to readjust the sling, and you had 3 rounds to zero in the peep sights. What distance away was that target 1 floater all the rest are pretty bloody good Blair. Remind me not to p#ss you off.
     
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  11. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry Well-Known Member

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    I love a good derail watch the steel plate rabbit between the first two targets this is at 1026 yards with a 260 Remington
     
  12. blair

    blair Well-Known Member

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    That's a long shot, well done Tac. Rail gun? haven't heard of a derail, my target rifle is a Ruger KM77VT have had more accurate .222,s but .22 PPC is better in the wind.
     
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  13. blair

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    300 yards or meters Kev, think the low 8 was a weak load I made that ammo about 5 years ago and it was accurate but "hot" then but didnt show any pressure signs on sunday. P#ssed a few people off by turning up and winning championship shoot whith out of the box rifle all I have done to rifle is adjusted trigger and whithout practising! they had been working up loads and practising all year, some whith custom built rifles. I usually do ok in that comp and have won it a few times the standard has improved over the last 25 years whith better equipment etc. They were all good sports and congratulated me. Great day out exchanging knowledge and having a bit fun.

    GOAT : dark horse
     
  14. kev209

    kev209 Well-Known Member

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  15. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry Well-Known Member

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    A derail is when somebody takes a thread in a different direction to what the OP started it in we were talking about alvey side casts now on rifles.
    And no railguns here all done with Remington 700s , and my son has a VT in 2506 and it is very arcuate it holds .3 to .4 moa
     
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  16. blair

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    Aha learnt something I am A frequent derailer then ha ha, sorry Kev. Was looking at getting a .25 06 ended up getting 22 250 for hunting, good accuracy .3 to .4 for the 25 06 my 250 holds .5 whith 50 grainers .75 whith 65 grainers only for about 5 or less shots fairly light 22 inch barrel so easier to carry about. PPC .4 inch for about 20 shots never tried more than about 15 shots in a string. 2 clearing shots 3 sighters 10 scoring.
     
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  17. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry Well-Known Member

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    The 260 and the 7mm REM mag shoot a lot better than the 2506 they can both do around quarter Moa 1000 plus yards......
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  18. kev209

    kev209 Well-Known Member

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    I occasionally watch the snipers in Afghanistan on YouTube and some of there successful shots close to 2 mile away. Fascinating, as they call it dope the scope. you would have to be great at math's
     
  19. blair

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    Nice group a long way out! that would be fun hitting plates at long range. lot of slow burning powder in those cases. The longest shot I have taken was 800 meters I had to look at a map after to work out how far it was, didn't see any dust or dirt fly up from a miss and fox was wobbling a bit when it trotted off.
    The person in the photo has a very blank look on his face:)
    must be bloody annoying for the Taliban, walking about then wack! no head.
     
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  20. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry Well-Known Member

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    Yep it takes a lot to impress me

    And on ELR shots they are body shots with 50BMG or 338LAPUA ......
     
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