Good post Tim, as usual. Thanks for the support. We're not going to see you down this way in the short term. I found a site, I thought for ABC, with a contact box to ask questions about activity restrictions. I put that particular case of boating on the lake to them as a question but have had no response. Can't even find the site again. A simple definition could be that taking a boat to the ramp is not an essential journey and thus not permitted. Spoke with Peter yesterday and we've waved the workshop's rent until some time in the future when things are a bit more stable. In a technical sense, some say he could still work alone after standing down his several staff. He has casuals (part time workers), permanent part timers, and fully permanent staff, one of whom has been there since I was at work many years ago. (20? perhaps) The technical hitch is that while it seems sole traders can still operate, as now we have formally retired, he's the sole director of Smart Upholstery Pty Ltd, and an employee of his own company and not a sole trader. He's seeking clarification on that. People have of course immediately stopped enquiring about work at his place and he doesn't know if he's able to finish work in progress, one in particular for large university in Canberra; a project into which he has put a large amount of capital (well into the five digit numbers). There is no guarantee he can get reimbursement until the job is completed. BUT THERE MUST BE THOUSANDS IN SIMILAR AND EVEN WORSE SITUATIONS. He's tough and resilient, but will that be enough? Losing that rent income is losing part of our planned ongoing superannuation fund. His eldest daughter, who has worked part time with after school care for youngsters is doing a uni course to become a primary school teacher. Natasha expects to be stood down soon. Her part time work helps fund her uni course. His wife Leanne is a paralegal and highly skilled in the world of conveyancing. Her boss indicates that buying and selling houses will stop completely soon as will real estate developments which is her forte'. She also will be out of a job. Of course he is deeply concerned about their future. Noel Whinging on behalf of someone else for a change.