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Where O Where have our Fisherman gone

Discussion in 'Fishing General Chat' started by kev209, Apr 27, 2018.

  1. kev209

    kev209 Well-Known Member

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    Where is everyone, Isn't anyone fishing. If we want TBX to survive we need members posting to keep the forum interesting and members getting involved.
    Posts don't all have to be on Fishing, they can be on Boats, Trailers, Motors, Safety gear, Tackle etc.
     
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    A friend asked where to dispose of out of date flares, a boat dealer referred him to the Police, he was told they don't take them. This subject was brought up a while ago, but I am unable to find the post
     
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    Only trouble Sandy were in Vic. thank's anyway
     
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    Good question. I would start off with local Coast Guard, if they cant help nobody can. Cheers. creekboy.
     
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  7. creekboy

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    Sorry, Kev. In reply to original question they must all be fishing. Cheers, creekboy.
     
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  8. blair

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    I would soak them in water for a few days after breaking them in half and put em in the food garbage bin, don't throw them in the recycle bin they like to ignite at the recycling plant and burn the whole plant down, it happens all the time.
    I have heard they are handy for lighting then throwing into bramble/blackberry bushes and flushing out wild pigs while waiting at a good vantage point whith plenty of ammo!
     
  9. Old fisho

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    They have been rare for me lately but finally got out for a fish yesterday.
    Under the clearest blue sky, with Tuross lake as smooth as a sheet of ice. I took my neighbour out for a fish during the morning as their boat motor had died a horrible death. He won't read this so I can say he's the dumbest and worst fisho I've ever met, and will only use bait but in ways I've never seen baits used before. Then I was to bring him back to the ramp at lunch time and take his good lady out during the afternoon. She is a better fisher than him; but only just. I can't understand why they even bother to go out. With Brian I fished several different soft plastics without a touch to begin with, then changed to a wasabi Squidgy Wriggler (translucent green) as the tide was high and the lower lake where we were was clear green sea water. What a difference the right colour makes. Quickly got two flounder; one of which was probably legal but they both went back in, then as quickly picked up half a dozen flathead. Brian got one flattie about 200 long. Three of my flathead were just over legal; the others smaller, but all went back. The tide peaked and for some reason it all stopped dead for close to an hour and back we headed for the ramp.
    With Anne on board I took her up the back of the system where she'd never been; to a spot that has been good to me over years; but for two years has not performed at all. It's a long narrow dead end arm with no flow through. The water is pushed up by the tide then moves out as the tide falls. This means that basically the water never really changes . It's the same water moving up and down. The true sea water never gets in there so it's usually just slightly less clear than the bottom end of the lake. We were about thirty metres from the end of the water in about two metres.
    Stayed with the wasabi a while then changed several different ones no result. Said to Anne that in the past white (Squidgy fish in Drop Bear pattern) has done better than most colours in this water and tied one on. Soon had a 42 in the bag; another few small ones; then kept a nice 45. Great size for the table. Another two smaller ones went back. Then I was able to say "this is a real fish" as the rod bent and line peeled off the spool as only big fish can make it do. Anne has never seen a big flattie caught and was almost jumping in the boat with excitement. I switched on the video glasses to get some film of it being released as I have caught enough biggies to know it was over 70, but with no idea how much over. Anyway; it never happened. The hook simply came out and she swam away. After a quarter of an hour of taking line and bringing it back she never came above the bottom and we never sighted it so can only imagine how big. But it was a big fish; probably between 70 and 100 centimetres; the sort Tuross is famous for. Anne finally got one small flattie. I would not take them again. They think cooked prawn heads are the best flathead bait. I'm sure fish would and do eat them, but think about this: I had told both that I never put the boat where I'm going to fish i
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    . Put another way; I never fish where the boat has been. It's less important in deeper water. So they both continued to fish directly behind the boat. Think it a bit further; I was using the electric; travelling against the now incoming tide and casting ahead and retrieving with the tide flow as I had explained. They both dragged a prawn head along the bottom (not above it) which means their baits were travelling against the tide flow. That's not conducive to catching any fish as in real life it can't possibly happen. To catch fish you have to start with basic facts of life in the water. Those who don't/can't will never be fishers of any capability. But it was bloody terrific to be again out on my favourite lake; in such perfect conditions; and have a good days fishing with about 15 for the day even though I only kept two. And two guys I don't know did almost everything for me to retrieve the boat. Great fellows. That's what fishos are all about. Noel.
     
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    Good read Noel. If you are annoyed that your mates did not listen to you (I assumed you told them to try different things)...I wouldn't worry about it. Some people are happy to wet a line. Sometimes I am happy to not wet a line and just sit on a creek trying to catch yabbies or socialise with people who are fishing. Do not read things into it like they do not have any faith in your fishing ability.
    Cheers
    Jim
     
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  11. Old fisho

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    Thanks for the note Jim. I was not reading into it what you suggest; but no doubt I could have become annoyed if I was that way inclined. I'm not. I was just saying it as it is. I agree entirely with your comments about wetting a line, but the two people often complain that they never catch much. At the same time they say they are envious that I always seem to have fish when I go out. I am no guru or even close to being one. I simply tell them that I work quite seriously at my fishing and that is why I perhaps usually get my share.
    Yet they are actually not prepared to try and improve their lot. They would certainly enjoy it more if they had more success. Note: They are also most kind and valued neighbours.
    There's a quotation in a book I am working on; (not the one being published). It reads along these lines.

    Fishing is not a game we play. You can play golf, cricket, football, tennis; you can even play cards. But we work a rod or line; we also work a lure and we work a pool or river. Playing simply never comes into it.

    Perhaps a bit extreme to some, but it's also rather close to the truth.

    That's the way I treat my fishing. Because of that I usually get what I set out to catch and because of that; it enables me to enjoy my fishing even more. I really don't accept that catching a fish is a bonus. Catching a fish is the only reason I go fishing.

    At the ramp I also met a fisho that I fished with several times in NZ. Hadn't seen him for years. He said that when he sees me next he hopes I have a nice new boat. I told him as I tell others; I have yet to see a boat catch a fish. In his $48,000 rig; he caught two. In my old tub we landed about a dozen and a half. I rest my case on that one.
    Another mate called today and he's taking me out again tomorrow if I can handle it. I was pretty dead beat last night and slept for over twelve hours. He wants me to guide him. That's something I'm not good at as I run on instincts and gut feelings more than knowledge and skill. Noel
     
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    don't worry fishos are still here, ive been a bit quiet back at that working caper interfears whith my fishing etc.
    Went to the local pond for a flick the other day not good conditions poor moon period, put on a 2.5" crawdad ive had for about 25 years never been used, after putting new savage trebles on it, it dives not too deep in the shallow pond whith a slow action and slow rertreive, soon after got a rattling strike and pulled in a hefty looking fish at first thought it was a cod then a bass but was a hefty golden pearch 2kg+.
    Tried to lift it out by the line but shook itself off, I thought id risk that than go for a lip grip by hand and end up whith one set of trebles in finger and other set still in vigorously shaking/leaping fish as I have done whith a large brown and large bream. Was going to release it anyway (after I killed it) heh heh joking.
    Whith your experience noel I think u would be a good guide I am hoping to go to NZ one day and chase some trout whith the flyrod.
    cheers
     
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    A few excellent reports there with a few words of wisdom thrown in. Great to see you able to wet a line again , Noel. Cheers, creekboy (Lyall).
     
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    Blair; I have only fished the area around Turangi and the Tongariro River in the middle of the top island. What a fantastic place. I was fortunate to be there 12-14 times; not certain of that, and loved each visit. Certainly recommend it but never go the first time without an experienced person on board. It can be hard and tough. Even the methods of fishing are unlike here as we don't have a similar river in Australia. It is wild. Fantastic is operative, but only after you technique it a bit. Noel

    And thanks to all you guys for support during recent months when things have not been travelling as well as could be, N.
     
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    Going back pre health issues, which is a while. I did a lot of Coarse Fishing including comps, I even won a couple. Granted I caught a lot more fish than I do now. But the gear you needed and had to take, plus the time it took to set everything up started taking the fun and enjoyment out of fishing. Then along came a few little health issues and I never wet a line for quite a few years. So not worth having all that gear sitting around doing nothing, so most of it was sold. I kept a couple of cheap spinning Rods and Reels, I don't know why, and a very small amount of Coarse gear the last of which I gave to our son not long ago. These days when I go fishing it's to relax, forget my problems and to enjoy myself. Sometimes I don't even have a line in the water, but I'm relaxed just sitting there. If I catch a fish it's a bonus, I release most of what I catch EXCEPT CARP. And I have found I am enjoying my fishing more than I ever did. But that's me, I can't do or go where I could a few years ago. But I can still get out and wet a line, there are others less fortunate who can't.
     
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    Love your honesty and philosophy mate.

    Perhaps I could do with some of it.

    I'm still a competitor in life and can't see it changing. N
     
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    AAAARGGHH! keep your old gear! I have been enjoying getting out old stuff and reconditioning/servicing it such as a abu 1500 ambassador reel and having a relaxing cast at the local pond only hooked the perch so far but I am sure I will get a cod if I keep having a go. Definatly the most relaxing and therapeutic pastime for me too kev, my favourite is casting a big wet on a still clear night at lake eucenbene watching the stars , lots of falling stars, satelites and listening to the various amusing campfire voices and partying noises some carry right across the lake. Also held onto my hunting gear and have been really enjoying that, after years of working out how to find deer and starting to get a few , it is an even better thrill than catching a big brown on the fly rod. good way to keep reasonablly fit walking around our beautifull aussie bush exploring, my boss is not very keen on cooking "bambi" though! any tips how to get her interested? ive tried the free range organic line... at least I cook for once.
    Thanks for the NZ tips Noel I have heard of and read about those areas, fast moving deep rivers lot of weight required for sinking flies , one day......
    tight lines
     
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    Back in the days when I shot trap and loaded shells; I used my powder scales when tying my weighted flies for NZ. Using lead wire; I had them up to 23 grams as per scale as they have to get down and quickly, If not the drift is so short it never caught fish. Noel.
     
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